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Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1713	Posted - 2011.10.12 18:10:00 - [1] - Quote I dare say you have never seen the Caracal, Hurricane, Tengu or a whole slew of other ships with versatile fittings.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1713	Posted - 2011.10.12 18:10:00 - [2] - Quote My point here is that just because there are popular fits for a thing does not mean that other fits are not possible and viable.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1713	Posted - 2011.10.12 18:15:00 - [3] - Quote I don't think you have much experience in this game. Name me a ship, and I'll give you some fittings for it.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1713	Posted - 2011.10.12 18:20:00 - [4] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: I don't think you have much experience in this game. Name me a ship, and I'll give you some fittings for it. Charon. [Charon, New Setup 1] [Charon, New Setup 2] [Charon, New Setup 3]
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1713	Posted - 2011.10.12 18:27:00 - [5] - Quote Igualmentedos wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: stoicfaux wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: I don't think you have much experience in this game. Name me a ship, and I'll give you some fittings for it. Charon. [Charon, New Setup 1] [Charon, New Setup 2] [Charon, New Setup 3] ^this. I personally prefer the first set up, but all three are solid fits IMO. I actually keep all three in station. The first one is my usual Jita-haulting setup, but I use the third one for managing my Planetary Interaction empire and the second one is comparatively preferable for trips through Niarja and other high-security choke systems where ganking is a concern.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1714	Posted - 2011.10.12 18:35:00 - [6] - Quote Gealbhan wrote: I always thought of the Minmatar as the "jack-of-all-trades-wacky-fit-club". I do think some specialisation ships are not a bad thing per say, oversaturation of them would be a bad thing. The only ship I can think of offhand that has clarity of purpose and elegance of design is the Brutix; but, I am predisposed to believe that by virtue of Dear Leader endorsing its use in that regard. For the information of those unaware, I am referring to the use of the Brutix as an all-out gank platform with blasters. But even the Brutix can be put to alternative uses: I am told it makes a fine mission or ratting boat with railguns, etc.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1714	Posted - 2011.10.12 18:41:00 - [7] - Quote So do Artillery thrashers, and AML Caracals.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1731	Posted - 2011.10.12 19:43:00 - [8] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Kitty McKitty wrote: Please refrain from making dumb supers whine threads. Perish the though! Supercap nerf tears are the best thing ever Every time I see a goon use the word "tears" I question which side really won the culture war.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1731	Posted - 2011.10.12 19:45:00 - [9] - Quote Grimpak wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: So do Artillery thrashers, and AML Caracals. AML navy caracal hurts even more I have been tossing around the idea of an AML Drake to bait and kill Dramiels. I figure it would be viable because the AML Caracal is a fairly well-known thing to be avoided by frigates, but a Drake is almost exclusively presumed to be fitted with HMLs and therefore presents a much more inviting target. What do you think about this? I am thinking of a dual-web fit with a scram and a medium neutralizer in the utility high slot, but I am torn between an afterburner or a microwarpdrive. Suggestions?
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1731	Posted - 2011.10.12 19:45:00 - [10] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Kitty McKitty wrote: Please refrain from making dumb supers whine threads. Perish the though! Supercap nerf tears are the best thing ever Every time I see a goon use the word "tears" I question which side really won the culture war. Using pubbie memes against them is proof that we won. One of these days we're going to get blind-sided by some random ass pubbie telling us to kill our are selves.

Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2339	Posted - 2011.10.13 17:30:00 - [11] - Quote Large and cohesive changes will never happen in this MMO, any other MMO, or any other business. Changes occur in increments so that they can individually be documented and analysed by the numbers guys whose job it is to make charts and graphs about things to do with the company's income and how any changes to income reflect changes in business model.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2339	Posted - 2011.10.13 17:46:00 - [12] - Quote Cydori wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Large and cohesive changes will never happen in this MMO, any other MMO, or any other business. Changes occur in increments so that they can individually be documented and analysed by the numbers guys whose job it is to make charts and graphs about things to do with the company's income and how any changes to income reflect changes in business model. Large changes never happen in EVE? Since when? On a more serious note, I know changes are generally going to happen in iterations, which is a good thing. It is entirely possible for a cohesive planGÇölet's call it Situation BGÇöto be theoretically and demonstrably superior to the initial scenario in which one finds oneself. Let's call that initial state Situation A. For the sake of a clear point, let us presume that fully implementing Situation B will result in a 25% increase to total subscriptions for your MMO. It is also entirely possible for Situation B to be composed of several elements: let's call those, for the sake of brevity, Component A, Component B, Component C, and Component D. Also for the sake of simplicity, let us assume that these components of Situation B shall be introduced in increments according to alphabetical order, over the course of a proposed one-year deployment rather than all at once. T = 0 : Situation A GÇö Subscription Numbers = 100% T + 90 : Deploy Component A GÇö Subscription Numbers = 110% T + 180 : Deploy Component B GÇö Subscription Numbers = 95% T + 270 : Deploy Component C GÇö Subscription Numbers = 85% T + 360 : Deploy Component D GÇö Subscription Numbers = 120% Sounds all well and good, yes? Well, no. Because the plan is being deployed in increments, Component D never gets deployed because at T + 270 it is very obvious that the roll-out of Situation B is a flop. It gets abandoned in lieu of trying some other thing that won't cut revenues by 15% with a clear trend towards losing even more income.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2344	Posted - 2011.10.13 18:03:00 - [13] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: I don't think you have much experience in this game. Name me a ship, and I'll give you some fittings for it. Diemost - armor fit OC Tell me how much you guys love those in your fleets Deimos is unironically very useful in certain "activities" which are sometimes very "profitable".
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2350	Posted - 2011.10.13 18:33:00 - [14] - Quote I absolutely adore Rainbow Dash.

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